The obsession with secrecy re: the temple is one of the taboos I find the most joy in breaking. Partially because the temple is manipulative and employs classic brainwashing techniques, but also because it so damn weird.
I read somewhere that Mormons used to hire a minister from a non-Mormon church to do temple marriage ceremonies. The website said he took part in a wedding ceremony and represented a servant of Satan and that this particular ceremony was no longer in practice. Can any old exmormons verify if this? I’ve heard of the “hay, lay, ale,” thing, but a minister in the temple just sounds too weird.
Craig said: 2010.07.06 18:10
It’s actually “pay lay ale” which is a bastardisation of a gramatically incorrect Hebrew phrase “Peh l’El” [pay luh el] which means “mouth to god”
I’ve never actually heard of a non-Mormon portraying Satan during the temple ceremony. It might be a rumour. I’d interested too though to find out for sure. It’s certainly plausible.
Jon Adams said: 2010.07.06 20:38
That was in the ceremony as I understand it, but I don’t think it was an actual non-Mormon minister, but an actor. What minister would want to be portrayed as the hireling of Satan?
Craig said: 2010.07.06 21:47
Yeah, now that I think of it, the ceremony at one point depicts Satan as preaching other religions – basically saying that all other religions/creeds besides Mormonism are of the devil.
Jon Adams said: 2010.07.06 22:04
I think the part of the ceremony that Ben was inquiring about was taken out in 1990, so you wouldn’t have seen it, Craig.
The obsession with secrecy re: the temple is one of the taboos I find the most joy in breaking. Partially because the temple is manipulative and employs classic brainwashing techniques, but also because it so damn weird.
I read somewhere that Mormons used to hire a minister from a non-Mormon church to do temple marriage ceremonies. The website said he took part in a wedding ceremony and represented a servant of Satan and that this particular ceremony was no longer in practice. Can any old exmormons verify if this? I’ve heard of the “hay, lay, ale,” thing, but a minister in the temple just sounds too weird.
It’s actually “pay lay ale” which is a bastardisation of a gramatically incorrect Hebrew phrase “Peh l’El” [pay luh el] which means “mouth to god”
I’ve never actually heard of a non-Mormon portraying Satan during the temple ceremony. It might be a rumour. I’d interested too though to find out for sure. It’s certainly plausible.
That was in the ceremony as I understand it, but I don’t think it was an actual non-Mormon minister, but an actor. What minister would want to be portrayed as the hireling of Satan?
Yeah, now that I think of it, the ceremony at one point depicts Satan as preaching other religions – basically saying that all other religions/creeds besides Mormonism are of the devil.
I think the part of the ceremony that Ben was inquiring about was taken out in 1990, so you wouldn’t have seen it, Craig.
Correct. I meant “depicted”.
This just made my day!